Gun Control? Really?

Hearing, then reading about the massacre at the movie theater in Colorado sickened me.

And then, as if things weren’t bad enough, the lefties came out of the woodwork calling for gun control and 4 more years.

Yuck.

I never allowed my sons to say that word, but it’s the cleanest one I can think of (and yes, I ended the sentence with a preposition).

Do liberals honestly believe that if all the guns were collected then we’d all be safe and no one would commit mass murder??

Jim Jones didn’t need guns to kill 918 people in Guyana in 1978. He used Kool Aid.

The 9/11 terrorists used box cutters.

Killers use tools and they’ll use whichever ones they can, so if guns are banned then they’ll just move on to something else.

P.S. The criminals don’t give up their guns when gun control has become law. Only the law-abiding citizens do.

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  1. Do liberals honestly believe that if all the guns were collected then we’d all be safe and no one would commit mass murder??…
    Straw-man argument. Not saying I agree or disagree with you, but a more cogent defense of your position is needed.

  2. The use of absolutes such as “all” and “no one” create a reductio ad absurdum formal fallacy. Great rhetoric, faulty logic.

    • May I assume that you aren’t referring to “all” the guns, because I can’t think of any that would still be allowed? Although it’s possible I could’ve missed it, I’ve never heard an advocate of gun control say that some could remain in civilian hands. It’s unlikely.

      Were you thinking of my phrase that we’d “all be safe” if the guns were collected?

      What else can be inferred from their position? If public safety isn’t the goal, what is?

      Are there other reasons for desiring an end to private gun ownership?

      My public school education didn’t include Latin. Is it the logic you consider absurd rather than the author?

  3. Oh, no. One thing I would never do is impugn the intelligence of another blogger, whether we agree or not. I’ve read articles from those on both sides of this issue. Most gun control advocates see no problem with well-adjusted adults having legal handguns, but they oppose average citizens from owning the types of weapons Holmes used.
    It’s not an all or nothing position. Actually, I don’t think yours is, either. Minus the rhetoric, it’s just a matter of degree.

    • Frankly, I grew up hating guns. My dad was a hunter and also carried a handgun for personal protection (he carried big sums of money for his store). So, I saw them on an almost daily basis and it offended my teenage liberal sensibilities.

      But, thankfully, I’ve had the blessing of living a long time and have considered both the pros and cons of many issues, including gun control.

      The 2nd amendment affords that right to the American citizen.

      Assault weapons?

      I honestly wish that a law abiding citizen in that theater had had one.

      The story might’ve had a different ending.

  4. Fran

    Amen. Amen. Amen. Jim tells me that they are now wanting to make
    butcher knives illegal in England. What a crock.
    It isn’t the instruments to blame. It the idiots that use them.
    Very well said. You go girl.

  5. Joe

    I am reminded of a somewhat humorous comment that Rick Perry made: I believe in gun control: I think you should use both hands!!
    Another cogent comment is: if you make it illegal to have guns, then only the innocent will turn them in. In other words, government gun control is a step in favor of the criminals.

  6. Ah, Mr. Perry, you were my candidate.

  7. Amen to this – and did you see that not only is our government buying a billion bullets [now removed from the official website] but that our president is signing the gun control treaty from the UN? Ah constitution, how I miss you.

  8. Of course Jim and I are strong defenders of the 2nd amendment. After the theater shooting, he expressed the same thought you did — if just one person in that theater had had a gun, lives could have been saved.

    I am thankful God is in ultimate control because some of the stuff our government has done over the past 3 1/2 years has scared the be-gibbers out of me. Hopefully, Romney/Ryan (Ryan makes me so much happier with this ticket) will be able to turn the ship in the right direction.

    • I told Joe that I want a big “RYAN – 2012” sticker on the back of my truck.

      In 1991, a man drove his pickup through the wall of a Luby’s in Killeen, Texas. He killed 23 people and wounded another 20.

      From Wikipedia:
      “In response to the massacre,[5] the Texas Legislature in 1995 passed a shall-issue gun law, which requires that all qualifying applicants be issued a Concealed Handgun License (the state’s required permit to carry concealed weapons), removing the personal discretion of the issuing authority to deny such licenses. To qualify for a license, one must be free-and-clear of crimes, attend a minimum 10-hour class taught by a state-certified instructor, pass a 50-question test, show proficiency in a 50-round shooting test, and pass two background tests, one shallow and one deep. The license costs $240 to $290, depending on the added instructor’s fee.

      The law had been campaigned for by Suzanna Hupp, who was present at the time of the massacre where both of her parents were shot and killed. She later expressed regret for obeying the law by leaving her firearm in her car rather than keeping it on her person due to the fact that it could have cost her her chiropractic license.[6] She testified across the country in support of concealed handgun laws, and was elected to the Texas House of Representatives in 1996.[7] The law was signed by then-Governor George W. Bush.[8]”

      Prior to that, I had been a gun-control advocate, but the incident and Dr. Hupp’s testimony proved how wrong I had been. That was right before I changed parties, and became a Republican.

      Wish I could get those wasted years and all those stupid words back.

      Your husband is a smart cookie; well, he married one didn’t he? 😉

  9. Wesley Horton

    Interesting points all, but one thing that seems to be often overlooked is that concept of the “Law of the Jungle.” Our fellow humans, who consider themselves “liberal” and condescend to anyone who does not think like they do, never seem to ask what would happen if we returned to the law of the jungle.

    They never stop to consider the little old lady who lives by herself and does not have anyone around to protect her. I assume she is suppose to submit meekly to the 3 A.M. rapist, and if he wishes to murder her, that is acceptable as well.

    Or perhaps the new mother, left at home with child, and visited by the midnight evil do’er.

    When there are no firearms, to as Samuel Colt opined to be the great equalizer, than any person of bad intent may easily gain the advantage over good people by possession of a knife, or club, or hammer. .

    And I will not even breach the subject of how easy it is to produce a working firearm with simple tools, a length of pipe, pipe cap, nail and rubber from an old inner tube.

    The Government has NO responsible to protect ANY of its citizenry. [1][2][3]

    Amazingly, self professed liberals have no answer to these problems. They have deluded themselves so as to believe all criminals will either turn in or voluntarily destroy the tools of their trade. They assume that the hard working people who made this country what it is are willing to forgo the right to defend their children, families and everything else they own. As always liberals make assumptions about economics, human behavior, and self preservation that bear no reasonable resemblance to reality.

    Nor will I bother to mention that those who call themselves liberals, are in fact nothing of the sort. They are progressive leftists, usually bent on subverting our government to Socialism.

    Kindest Regards,
    Wesley Horton

    1. http://www.nytimes.com/2005/06/28/politics/28scotus.html?_r=0
    2. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Warren_v._District_of_Columbia
    3. List of several other cases that illustrate this point may be found here: http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1976377/posts

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